Posts Tagged ‘The Taliban’

Jimmy Dore: Taliban Have Surrendered Several Times, Each Time Refused by America

August 26, 2017

Here’s another very important clip from the Jimmy Dore Show. It’s one that should be viewed by everyone interested in what the various wars we’re fighting around the world are really about. Dore and his co-host, Ron Placone, discuss a review of Anand Gopal’s book No Good Men Among the Living: America, the Taliban and the War through Afghan Eyes by Ryan Grimm in The Intercept. And its more of what the mainstream media aren’t telling us about these wars.

Dore starts the show by making the point that mainstream media never reveals the truth about the reasons behind America’s various wars in the Middle East and the Maghreb. They don’t mention the petrodollar, Libya, or the reason why Iran’s now a theocratic state under the ayatollahs. It’s because America – and Britain – over threw its democratically elected prime minister, Mossadeq.

And this is just as devastating. Gopal’s book reveals that the Taliban surrendered several times to America and its allies, only to be rebuffed. It was traditional in Afghan civil wars for the losing side to surrender to the victors. They would, in turn, incorporate them into the new government. Dore makes the point that this is a sensible system for governing a country, where people still have to live together as neighbours after the fighting. The Taliban tried to do this with the Allies, and were rebuffed. Several times. He also points out that the Taliban itself withered away, as its members put down their guns, either going back and vanishing into the rest of the population, or heading over the border into Pakistan.

However, America and the Allies offered rewards for those informing on the Taliban. With the real Taliban having vanished, and al-Qaeda down to a mere handful of people, the venal and unscrupulous amongst the Afghan population used the system to settle personal feuds. They smeared their neighbours as Taliban, for them to be killed or arrested by the US forces, and get the reward money. This naturally has created massively hostility against Allied forces. When America and the Allies first defeated the Taliban, the Afghans were glad to see them go. Now, having had their peace overtures repulsed, and the country reduced to more chaos and warfare, the Taliban have returned with popular backing.

But Dore states, you are not going to hear it from the mainstream news, such as MSNBC and Rached Maddow, because the media automatically backs the American war machine. And that war machine must be kept fed. He notes that Congress, with the backing of the Democrats, has just voted another $100 billion for the defence budget, in addition to what had already been voted for it last year. America already spends more on defence than the next 13 countries on the list combined. And the country and her allies have been in Afghanistan for 16 years. In other four years, the war will get a gold watch and be able to retire.

That’s it. There are absolutely no good reasons anymore for us to be anywhere in the Middle East. I backed the invasion of Afghanistan because I believed that it was a justified response to an act of war by al-Qaeda and its Taliban allies. I heard a few years ago from a friend that the Taliban tried to stop the invasion by offering to surrender Osama bin Laden, claiming that they didn’t know that he had been planning the attack. I wasn’t sure whether to believe it or not. But after this, it looks much more credible.

We’re not helping anyone in Afghanistan by staying there, except perhaps an already corrupt government, propped up by us, western mercenaries, and the opium trade, which has flourished more than it ever did previously. Dore states that the only areas in Afghanistan, which weren’t troubled by fighting, were those where there wasn’t a western military presence.

Of course, there are other, corporate reasons why we’re still there. Trump announced that America would stay in the country to exploit its valuable mineral resources, in order to defray the costs of the invasion. As well as the gas pipeline that was supposed to be built, but wasn’t, as Dore also mentions.

But the humanitarian reasons touted as justification for the invasion have vanished. We’ve long outstayed our welcome. As Grimm’s review concludes, we’re losing to an enemy who’s already surrendered. A hard thing to do. We’re just killing and maiming people for the benefit of the military-industrial complex. And our boys and girls are also being killed and maimed.

They’re coming back traumatized and with terrible injuries, not for defending their country and its allies, as they and we have been told. They’re being mutilated and killed purely for the profit of the big arms manufacturers.

Disgusting.

Dore encourages everyone watching this to pass it on. I agree. We are not going to hear about this from mainstream media, which includes the Beeb.

General Smedley Butler was right. War is a racket. We need to get out, bring our troops back home, and close all the wars and interventions in which we’re currently involved down.

Until then, there will never be peace across the world.

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Vox Political: 70,000 Indian Mullahs Sign Petition against Terrorism and ISIS

December 15, 2015

Amid the slew of bad news, this is very optimistic news indeed. Mike put up an article yesterday over at Vox Politcal about a report in the Independent that 1.5 million Muslims, including 70,000 members of the ulema – the Islamic clergy, had signed a petition organised by the Dargah Aalah Hazrat condemning ISIS, al-Qaeda and the Taliban. The people signing the petition were pilgrims attending the Urs festival at the shrine of a local Sufi saint near the city of Ajmer in Rajasthan.

Mike writes

But the truth is, these people could deal the terrorists a far more bitter blow than any air strike. They are taking away the terrorists’ assumed legitimacy.

Daesh wants people around the world to believe that it is an Islamic organisation, and that true Muslims not only should, but will support it.

But here are one and a half million of them – admittedly in India – who won’t accept anything of the sort.

This could cripple Daesh’s recruitment of cannon fodder – or perhaps I mean radicalised fighters. No, cannon fodder is more appropriate.

Read the full article at: http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/12/14/70000-indian-muslim-clerics-issue-fatwa-against-terror-groups/

I hope Mike’s right. The ulema are Islam’s religious leaders, and they can play a powerful role in forming Muslim popular opinion, and in providing or denying legitimacy to national governments. The obvious example of this is the Islamic Revolution in Iran in 1979. Even before then, back in the early part of the century, the Islamic clergy were able to mobilise a mass campaign against what they viewed as British imperialist domination. I’ve forgotten the precise details, but part of the grievance was about British economic domination through the tobacco industry. One of the Muslim scholars then denounced baccy as un-Islamic, with the result that nearly everybody in the country stopped smoking overnight. Tobacco profits fell, and the British government had to climb down on that particular point.

I’ve put up several pieces already on how most ISIS fighters actually have only a very superficial understanding of Islam. My guess is that this also extends to a segment of the leadership. Mullah Omar, the spiritual leader of the Taliban, for example, has been reported as having no theological training. Despite the name, he’s not a ‘mullah’, the Iran term for a member of the clergy. At least, he isn’t formally.

As for cannon fodder, my guess is that’s exactly how the upper echelons of ISIS, the Taliban and al-Qaeda regard their followers. The mass use of suicide bombing by Muslims in recent conflicts began with the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran during the Iran-Iraq War. He bought a load of cheap keys, and in a ceremony gave them out to the suicide troops on the front, telling them that they were the keys to the kingdom of heaven. I’m not sure, but I think at least some of the soldiers were young boys. During the war the Iranians were reduced to using kids as young as 14. I know Muslims, who are very unimpressed and disillusioned by this shabby deception on the part of the government.

As for the Taliban, for many liberal and moderate Iranians, they’re a model of exactly the kind of hard-line regime they don’t want in their country. During the elections a few years ago in Iran, Ahmedinijad was attacked by his opponents as wanting to turn Iran into a ‘Taliban state’. John Simpson in his book on Iran makes the point that although the country is extremely authoritarian by Western standards, it’s people still felt they were freer than those of Soviet Russia.

How effective this will be for destroying any spurious legitimacy the Islamists possess remains to be seen. Part of the problem is that there is no overall religious leader in Islam. And Islam, like Christianity and many other religions, is also split into various sects, which can vary greatly on doctrinal issues. Much of the various Islamist movements seem to be a product of, or at least strongly influenced by, Wahhabism, the fundamentalist Islam of Saudi Arabia. This has been lamented by Muslims from nations, whose traditional form of Islam was much more liberal. And there is also the additional problem in that Islamism is a reaction against the official Islam promoted by the state in countries like Egypt. It may well be that the impressionable kids, who most need to take on board the Indian ulema’s message, won’t, because it doesn’t go with the stuff they read coming out of the jihadis’ sites.

This, however, is a major move by popular Islam against the Islamists. It also bears out what one poll reported about the majority of Muslims around the world despising ISIS. Hopefully, it’ll deter some from giving the mass murderers their support and aid.

Russia Sells Iran Anti-Missile Defence System

April 14, 2015

The Independent has also reported today that the Russians have lifted an international ban on selling Iran anti-missile systems. The Kremlin signed the deal with Iranians to supply them with S-300s eight years ago, but pressure from America and Israel caused them to suspend the deal.

Following the tentative deal with America cutting drastically on Iran’s nuclear programme, the Russians have decided that they will now fulfil the deal. The Russians are part of the P5+1 group which negotiated it.

The Independent states that the decision ‘has been greeted with dismay by the West and Israel’. The Israeli Intelligence Minister, Yuval Steinitz, said ‘This is a direct result of the legitimacy that Iran has obtained from the emerging nuclear deal’.

Actually, this time the Russians are right. The rhetoric the Iranian regimes spouts about Israel is indeed genocidal, but the Repugs in America and Netanyahu’s band in Israel seem determined to start a war with Iran by bombing them.

In the clip below, Michael Brooks, one of the contributors to Sam Seders’ left-wing news analysis show, Majority Report, comments on Louie Gohmert’s remarks on Iran in an interview with Fox News. His ignorance and belligerence is too much even for the lady interviewing him, and you can hear muted sounds of laughter. Brooks is a Republican Congressman, and Brooks admits that they’ve made him the butt of many of their jokes, because of his amazing stupidity. And from this clip, it is truly stunning.

Gohmert states quite frankly that America should bomb Iran, if the Iranians don’t accede to their request and give up all of their nuclear capability. When asked how Russia, Iran’s ally, would respond, Gohmert states that they wouldn’t do anything, because they’re also determined to crack down on radical Islam. As Brooks points out, they are. But they also have very good relations with Iran.

And it’s not just the West or Russia which is opposed to radical Islam. So are many severely-normal, ordinary Muslim Iranians. During the 2008 election in Iran, many Iranians voted against Ahmedinijad, because they were afraid he’d turn Iran into ‘a Taliban-state’. Iran does back other Islamic movements around the world. They’re supposed to be backing the Houthi rebels in Yemen. But they’re not the Taliban and very definitely not ISIS. Here’s the clip.

In 2013 Sheldon Adelson, an extremely wealthy Republican donor, told the audience at a conference on threats to Jewish survival, that America should use a nuclear bomb on Iran if the country did not halt its nuclear programme. He recommended that the first nuke should be aimed at one of Iran’s deserts, where it wouldn’t do any harm ‘except perhaps to rattlesnakes and scorpions’. If the Iranians still carried on with the programme, the next one would land in the heart of Tehran.

Here’s the report by The Young Turks discussing Adelson’s remarks.

The Turks’ anchor, Cenk Uyghur, points out that there are seven million innocent Iranians living in Tehran. I’ve met Iranians over here, who come from that great city.

Seven million, vaporised or horrifically burnt, dying of radiation sickness, just to satisfy the Repugs’ bloodlust.

Uyghur further points out that Adelson gave extensively to Newt Gingrich’s campaign, and that of another senior Republican. If either of those two had got in the White House, this would be America’s foreign policy.

The idea of Adelson, Gohmert or any of these people being anywhere near power chills the blood.

Israel’s protected by the Iron Dome defence system, which was given to them by Obama’s administration. With rhetoric like this coming from the Repugs, the Iranians have every right to the same protection.

As for making any kind of nuclear strike on Iran, the mere threat of it is more than likely to increase the Iranians’ determination to acquire nuclear weapons, or at least persuade their allies to guarantee their protection if attacked.

And that wouldn’t be difficult. Pakistan illegally acquired their nukes from China. And about a decade ago, when there was an episode of international tension between America and China over atomic weapons, someone pointed out that the Chinese’s response when they felt threatened was to pass on the technology to even more people. A nuclear strike against Iran might paradoxically persuade more countries to want to acquire nuclear weapons, so they could retaliate, and China may be more than willing to supply them. Adelson’s stupid and murderous comments make nuclear war more likely, not less.