Kippers Tell Welsh To Speak English at Meetings in Wales

According to EDL News, Oberleutnantsturmgangkipperfuhrer Paul Nuttall told hecklers at a meeting in Porthmadog that they should speak English at UKIP meetings. The two hecklers, including language campaigner Dr Simon Brooks, were angry that there were no translation facilities, literature in Welsh or opportunities to ask questions in Welsh at the meeting. Brooks stated that as most people in the town spoke Welsh, it was a disgrace not to have information and material available in Welsh.

Nuttall replied that most people in Wales spoke English. ‘If people want to come here, they should speak English’.

There are certainly parts of the principality where they speak English, and in which the people themselves see no need to provide material in Welsh. However, there are also areas which are extremely proud of their language and do make the point of speaking it. And usually at meetings like this, even if one is not able to speak the local language, an attempt to say a few words goes a long way.

For example, yesterday’s edition of Bargain Hunt, the popular BBC antiques programme, also came from the Land of Comrades, and the contestants were Welsh-speaking. So the host got them to teach her the phrase for ‘Welcome to Wales’. And there were odd moments when the contestants spoke Welsh to some of the traders in an attempt to get the price down. It was all good natured, and added a piece of local variety to the programme.

Nuttall’s comments, and the lack of any gesture in the direction of providing Welsh-speaking material in a Welsh-speaking area will be seen as yet more evidence of Mr Jonathan Stanley complained about the Scots party: that it used the language of English nationalism.

And in Wales, as in Scotland, that’s guaranteed to lose votes.

Misty Thackeray, Racism and Sectarianism in Scottish UKIP

Yesterday and Thursday I blogged on the resignation of the Scottish-based surgeon, Mr Jonathan Stanley, from UKIP. Among his reasons for leaving were displeasure at the party’s refusal to publish material he’d written about the deaths of eleven children and a mother at the Morecombe Bay NHS Trust. He also found Furhage’s plans to exclude migrant children from state education and medicine unconscionable.

He also complained of the Scots party using the language of English nationalism, and a poisonous culture of sectarianism and bullying within the party. The blog Angry Meditation’s piece, Your definitive guide to UKIP’s racists, sexists, homophobes, Islamophobes, anti-Semites, paedophiles, animal abusers, and violent bullies. provides further light on this accusation by citing some of the bigoted and extremely sectarian remarks uttered by Misty Thackeray, UKIP’s Scottish chair. According to the site, Thackeray

•Liked Facebook group which thinks “paedophilia is part of Islamic tradition”
•Posted “real Catholicism and Real Islamism are far from antagonists with both having an outwardly benign image but inwardly sharing a fascist ideology of extreme submissive conservatism and imperialism”
•Described Glasgow council as a place for “gays, Catholics and Communists”
•Appeared on a leaked list of English Defence League activists.

It’s clear from this that the Scots party’s culture of Islamophobia and sectarian anti-Roman Catholicism, along with homophobia, come from and is endorsed by the leadership itself.

With this poisonous culture, Mr Stanley was right to leave.

The Guardian Adds a Few More Details on Jonathan Stanley’s UKIP Resignation

I posted an article yesterday about the resignation from UKIP of Jonathan Stanley, a Scotland-based surgeon. Mr Stanley was their candidate for Westmoreland and Lonsdale. He resigned citing racism and sectarianism in the Scottish party as his reasons for leaving, along with the party’s failure to publish documents he had written about the deaths of eleven babies and a mother in the University Hospitals of the Morecambe Bay NHS Trust.

The Guardian today published an article reporting Mr Stanley’s resignation as one of three blows and scandals to hit the party. The other two were the investigation of Janice Atkinson for fiddling her expenses from the EU, and the suspension of Stephen Howd, a barrister, and their candidate for Scunthorpe, over allegations of harassment at his workplace.

The Guardian’s report says little about this. Most of the article is about Stanley’s resignation and Atkinson’s fraud, adding a few more details about why he resigned. In addition to the sectarianism and culture of bullying, he also strongly objected to the party’s use of ‘the language of English nationalism’. He felt it was damaging and corrosive to the Eurosceptic and Unionist cause.

He also took issue with part of Farage’s plan to exclude migrants from state support for five years after they came here. Along with his other reasons, he stated he could not support the exclusion of migrant children from state education and medical care.

Stanley’s absolutely right. It is totally unacceptable that migrant children, in particular, should be punished and left vulnerable because their parents came here in search of a better life. It’s also a move that is absolutely certain to do immense harm. If you exclude children from state education, and they cannot afford the immense fees of private tuition, then automatically you create an unskilled underclass, who will have no other recourse but crime. Especially if they cannot claim dole or other benefits.

I’ve similarly reblogged material from Vox Political, where Mike has produced the opinions of doctors and social workers that if migrants are excluded from the NHS, then it could lead to more infectious disease going untreated. You think of the chaos and suffering that could arise, if someone contracted Ebola, because they came from or visited West Africa, and were excluded from state medical treatment and couldn’t afford to go privately.

Or more prosaic problems and deaths that could arise from more ordinary problems going untreated, like meningitis or appendicitis. And does anyone really want to see women left to give birth without proper medical care, especially after the rave reviews of the Beeb’s Call The Midwife? That programme showed exactly the problems women faced bearing children in the East End slums in 1950s austerity Britain. No-one should want that privation and poverty to come back.

Except, it seems, Farage, and the rest of the Kipper, Tory and Lib Dem goons, who crave to see the NHS carved up and sold off.

The Guardian’s article is at: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/mar/20/ukip-faces-crisis-two-parliamentary-candidates-suspended-one-resigns

UKIP Candidate for Westmoreland Resigns Citing Racism, Bullying and Sectarianism

The Westmoreland Gazette has this story, Ukip candidate resigns: Jonathan Stanley leaves party citing ‘open racism and bullying’. Jonathan Stanley is a Scotland-based surgeon, who managed to stick it out as UKIP’s parliamentary candidate for Westmoreland and Lonsdale before finally resigning. He explained his decision as due to the racism and sectarianism within the Scottish party. He said

“I have given my full resignation to the party because of issues happening in Scotland: open racism and sanctimonious bullying within the party. This sectarian racist filth in Scotland needs cleaning up. it is a great threat to the Eurosceptic cause and civil society.”

He also cited other reasons for his resignation. These were the general levels of motivation in MEPs for the north west, and health issues. He had been dismayed by the party’s decision not to publish documents he had written about the Kirkup Report, which condemned the hospitals in the Morecambe Bay NHS Foundation Trust after the deaths of eleven babies and one mother.

The article’s at http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/11868250.Ukip_candidate_resigns__Jonathan_Stanley_leaves_party_citing__open_racism_and_bullying_/?ref=twtrec.

Reading this, it seems that not only is UKIP in Scotland racist – no surprise there! – but also beset with the sectarian hatreds between Protestant and Roman Catholic. I can’t say I’m surprised at that either, as when Farage crossed the briny to speak in Ulster, the party organisers over there seemed to have very strong connections to Protestant paramilitary groups.

As for the comments about motivation, it suggests that the Kippers in the north-west simply can’t be bother about that part of the world.