Karen Davis on the Woman Challenging a Spa over Biological Male in Women’s Area

This is going to be another controversial post, as it’s about women’s right to protest against the inclusion of biological men in women’s spaces on the grounds that they are transwomen, and identify as female. Davis is a Black American feminist, a teacher and musician with a degree in psychology and an absolutely razor sharp mind. She is one of the many voices criticising trans activism and transwomen on the Net, and does so not with prejudice, but with facts, statistics and logic.

Now to make it clear, I do not hate transpeople. I am sure there are some wonderful transmen and -women around, and I recognise that some people genuinely identify as members of the opposite sex and treatment and transitioning has worked for them. I do not wish to see anyone, including transpeople, bullied, abused, denied jobs, assaulted or otherwise persecuted simply for being what they are. As the author of Harry Potter, J.K Rowling said, they should be able to dress how they want, sleep with whoever will have them and live the best life they can. But their rights should not supersede women’s rights to safe, single sex spaces.

This is essentially a practical, real-life enactment of the Staniland Question. Helen Staniland is a Welsh lady, and one of Graham Linehan’s interlocutors with Canadian Arty Morty on his The Mess We’re In YouTube channel. She used to go around asking people if they would be happy, if their mother or daughter went to a women only space, like sports changing rooms, and saw a penis. Of course, most severely normal people privately wouldn’t, and say so privately to her. But the trans rights activists demand complete acceptance as women, and scream and holler prejudice and ‘transphobia’ if this supposed right is questioned. But the TRAs really don’t have an answer to her question, and so have been reduced to misrepresenting her as some kind of pervert or prurient woman obsessed with male genitals.

In this case, Karen Davis looks at a video of an angry woman, unseen, who challenges the staff at a spa because she has seen a naked, biological male in the women’s changing area. She saw a penis. And the staff are unsympathetic, at one point replying to her statement ‘It was a dick!’ with ‘Yes, and you’re being one.’ But this is a real problem with women’s right to their own, single-sex spaces allowing them to feel safe and comfortable.

The transgender individual didn’t have to use the women’s area. The spa contained men’s, women’s and coed spaces. If that person understandably didn’t want to use the men’s, then he could have used the coed, mixed space instead. But his demand to be seen as a woman overrode women’s desire and need not to have a biological male in their space.

Davis is also against transwomen being accepted as women, even if they have transitioned. It’s not a view I fully support, but I can appreciate her reasons for holding such a view. Especially as the medical literature shows that transexuals and transvestites have a higher incidence of other fetishes, including paedophilia and exhibitionism. There have been instances where transwomen, who have undergone gender reassignment, have committed acts of gross exhibitionism in women’s space, such as toilets, for example, and then posted it on the Net.

While Davis is particularly ferocious in her opposition to trans rights and denies that transwomen can ever be women, she and Helen Staniland have a point.

Biological men should have no place in women only spaces, like toilets and changing rooms. To allow them in contradicts the very reason we have them – to protect women from embarrassment and potential sexual harassment.

And women have every right to complain.

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5 Responses to “Karen Davis on the Woman Challenging a Spa over Biological Male in Women’s Area”

  1. Brian Burden Says:

    The objections here are similar to those raised against unisex hospital wards a few years ago. We’ve been allowed to think that these have been discontinued, but I wonder whether some still survive to cause unnecessary embarrassment and anxiety to patients at a vulnerable time.

  2. gillyflowerblog Says:

    What medical literature? Links please

    • beastrabban Says:

      I put up a series of videos from Karen Davis in which she goes through the medical literature on transgenderism and other paraphilias, some of which come from a psychologist called Blanchard while others come from a Dr. Doctor. Yeah, I know – she’s also made jokes about the name. If you’re interested in hunting the medical literature about this down, I suggest you look at those.

  3. gillyflowerblog Says:

    So not true then
    https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/07/qanon-believers-trans-activists-white-nationalists-antifa-clash-bloody-riot-outside-la-spa/?utm_source=LGBTQ+Nation+Subscribers&utm_campaign=962e60f93c-20210719_LGBTQ_Nation_Daily_Brief&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c4eab596bd-962e60f93c-432179864

    • beastrabban Says:

      Thanks for the comment, Gillyflower. Paul Joseph Watson discusses these claims in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTP5Ntrny5w. (Yeah, I know, it’s Paul Joseph Watson, Alex Jones’ former British buddy from Infowars and another one who broke UKIP by joining it. But I think he makes some reasonable points).

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